“Moderate Muslims” Refuted

How about a post about those Muslims who only accept what the U’lama say, and whenever you try to prove something using Ayat and Ahadith they use the argument that you are not an ‘Alim.

Wa Salam

Na’am akhee, they have become like the Christians and Jews who blindly obey their Rabbis and Monks. Soon Insha’Allah, we will write an article on the matter.

damn the offsrping of the devil who spred untruths of islam

Sajids2, if im so evil then why won’t you debate me? I am willing to make a whole page devoted to our debate and if you beat me, then I will SHUT DOWN this whole site.

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Hi and Salam and G’day its me Curaezipirid
I have a set of blogs now, which I can’t remember the urls of. But link to by my user name, or anonymouslegalsubordinate (subordinate to who knows when he gets here, but that the echina tried to eat me, makes it now sooner than maybe)
salam, and good on who done

I guess that the full truth of sugar coating the deen for the kuffar is between knowing that we will need to swallow and sugar helps, and knowing that we willneed to learn not to want the sugar ourselves.

Alaykumu’as-salam

“We are merely Muslims who seek to defend At-Tawheed, As-Sunnah, and the practices of As-Salaf As-Saliheen (Pious Predecessors). We are not Ulam’aa (Scholars), or anything of that sort. We strive to be from Ahlul Sunnah Wal ‘Jammah, and amongst the Ghurabaa. The primary goal of this site is to challenge the so called “moderate muslims” who distort and compromise Islam, worse yet, sugar coat it to fit their needs and that of the kuffar. We ask that Allah (SWT) gives us utmost success, Ameen”

Ameen. Good mission, May Allah reward you for your efforts! Ameen!

“We declare ourselves free from the apostate rulers, who have made themselves tawagheet (false dieties) by not ruling by Shar’eeah law.We declare ourselves free from the apostate rulers, who have made themselves tawagheet (false dieties) by not ruling by Shar’eeah law.

We declare ourselves free from all political systems such as socialism, democracy, and monarchy, for indeed the only system is that bestowed upon us by Allah the exalted, and that is Sharee’ah.”

JazaakAllahu Khayr! Ah, finally someone is willing to challenge those so-called Islamic States!! Thank you very much, indeed they are taghoot governments!! Ah, so you don’t support the “monarchy” of Saudi Arabia? If you do, then I’m sorry you are a hypocrite in my book! If you don’t then, Alhamdulilahi Rabil Alameen you are not another muslim following blindy those dictators!

“We are free from all this rotten nationalism, and refuse to label ourselves with such titles.”

Yes! A disease is what nationalism is!! Wallahi people are far too nationalistic, sometimes forgetting their Muslim brethren just because they are not “the same people” And we spend way too much time “defending” our countries, then Islam itself… :I

“We declare our utmost animosity, rejection, and hatred to those who have rejected the Allah (SWT) and his Messenger (SAWS) (i.e non-muslims), and to those who sugar-coat and compromise this deen (Munafiqeen [Hypocrites])”

Ah! As should every Muslim!! Wow, you guys sound awesome masha’Allah, so far what I have read you seem like an blog of Haq!….insha’Allah you will be sucessful in your efforts! Ameen!

JazaakAllahu Khayran

Wa’alaykum Asalaam

A Sister

We declare our utmost animosity, rejection, and hatred to those who have rejected the Allah (SWT) and his Messenger (SAWS) (i.e non-muslims), and to those who sugar-coat and compromise this deen (Munafiqeen [Hypocrites])

haha, sorry the last bit got in there somehow…. :p

Anywho, carry on your work!!

“Sajids2, if im so evil then why won’t you debate me? I am willing to make a whole page devoted to our debate and if you beat me, then I will SHUT DOWN this whole site.”
Exactly like the anti-islamics, this is what they say too, when we tell them they spread falsehood, they say well why don’t you debate me then, and then I will remove the WHOLE website, LOL!

As salamu alykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatoo my brothers in Islam

I love you for the sake of Allah SWT and May Allah SWT multiply your good deeds and reward your defense of His Mujahiddeen. May Allah SWT honor them with victory that He has promised the ummah of Muhammad sws.

I am a Muslim of almost 5 years alhamdulillah - and am inshallah seeking knowledge with the intention of pleasing and knowing Allah SWT. It seems clear that we should not participate in given legitimacy to the riba-based capitalist masquerade called the democratic process which is an institute which protects those establishing the infrastructure for Dajaal - and that jihad fi sabillah is fard ayn upon us and yet most of us do not do this - may Allah SWT forgive me my weakness and one day give me the strength of heart to fight fi sabillah in His path. I make no excuse.

Prophet Muhammad sws said - people will say I said and did the good and maybe I didn’t do all these things but remember I always do the good, and people will say I said and did evil, and remember I never did say or do evil.

Please forgive my boldness and I am in no way seeeking to cause you offence. There is an issue I feel is very problematic with the whole notion of Ahlul Sunnah Wal ‘Jammah and not satisfactorily explained and I never knew who to ask. Shyakh Ali al-Tamimi (may Allah free Him) explains Ahlul Sunnah Wal ‘Jammah (using the Hama paper by Shaykh Taymiyyah) as those who obviously worship Allah SWT (5 pillars of Islam and 6 pillars of Iman - knowing Allah SWT through His names and attributes) and obey and follow the example of rasoolah sws - Surah Ali Imran 31-32. > All praise is due to Allah this is very clear and may Allah SWT make us one of those who obey and follow our beloved Prophet, The Last Prophet and “mercy for mankind”. The part I find problematic is the next part - the ‘narration’ which is attributed to our Prophet sws to [I am paraphrasing] follow his sunnah and the sunnah of the rightly guided Kalifas after me. Why I say attributed is that:

(1) Surely Allah SWT who is all merciful and all just would have supported such an important direction in the Qur’an and made this part of His guidance. May Allah SWT pour His blessings upon the sahabah but surely the Qur’an is clear that we should follow Rasoolah only. [Surah Baqarah 2-5] The two guiding lights of Qur’an Surah al-Baqarah and Surah Ali Imran are clear on this point - that we are to follow Prophet Muhammad sws.

(2) The defect in the narration as I see it are several. So first I would ask what is the supporting evidence for this narration - is there anything in the Qur’an or sunnah to support this narration? The first problem is in my opinion that this narration does not tell us who are the rightly guided Kalifas - or how many? How do we recognise them (because they have their own sunnah - which begs the four questions; do we follow their sunnah if it contradicts the sunnah of Prophet Muhammad sws? do their sunnah abrogate the sunnah of Prophet Muhammad sws? are their additions bida? and if they add nothing and do not differ then what is there to follow?). Further - who decided that there would only be four rightly guided Kalifas if it was not Allah SWT or his Messenger sws - or 5 if one includes Umar Ibn Abel-Azeez? No doubt these are a great and blessed people whose uniqueness surely is that they were the companions of Rasoolah sws [Surah Ali Imran 101] Allah SWT asks the kaffars - and how could you not believe when the greatest person to have lived walks amongst you. They were blessed with the presence of Rasoolah and hearts guided by Allah SWT to recognise his Messenger sws.

(3) Allah SWT is merciful and surely He would have made this clear for us to follow the guidance of Abu Bakr and Umar, Uthman and Ali (may Allah be pleased with them).

(4) Allah SWT continues in 110 “You are the best nation produced for mankind” addressing the Muslims (all of the Muslims or just the sahabah?) - What about the companions of al-Mahdi and Esa (AS) and the “brothers” of Rasoolah who Prophet Muhammad says he cannot wait to meet - those who will come in the end times and believed in his Prophethood even though they did not meet Him? Or those from ash-Shams who will remain steadfast in spite of adversity, oppression, injustice committed against them? The children of the Intifada who should have been wiped off the face of the earth and have yet completely humiliated the global Zionist-Nazi Imperialist movement and to go back a while to Salahuddin and his companions who came long after the Salaf. Or those who will remain steadfast on jihad and enjoin the good and forbid the evil until judgement day? Surely these Mumineen are as great as the sahabah? Their level of eeemaaan is through the roof. Why then are we intent on destroying this greatest of nations from within by saying the best generation have already lived and hence we are just going to get worse and worse and hence I am just going to spend my time making takfir on the Muslims - clearly a self fulfilling way to destroy Islam from within as intended by the enemies of Allah SWT and in complete contradiction to the promise of Allah SWT that islam will reign globally supreme and it will be through a combination of jihad and establishing knowledge of Islam so that people will sincerely choose Islam [La ikra fi deeni].

(5) Surely In the Last Sermon of Prophet Muhammad he would have “conveyed” the names of the R.G.Ks as part of the “message” when he informed the companions (may Allah SWT be pleased with them) -

“Beware of Satan, for your safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things …

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QUR’AN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me direcly. BE MY WITNESS O ALLAH THAT I HAVE CONVEYED YOUR MESSAGE TO YOUR PEOPLE.”

This is clear to follow the Qur’an and Prophet Muhammad’s sunnah only - and as Allah SWT is his witness Prophet Muhammad conveyed Allah SWT’s message. Alhamdulilah.

(6) Allah SWT as highlighted above in Surah Ali Imran 110 states “You are the best nation produced for mankind”. In Uhud Allah SWT forgave the Muslims (including Abu Bakr and Umar - may Allah SWT raise them to the highest status in jannah) who deserted Prophet Muhammad sws who stood steadfast with a handful of sahabah until struck down. This surely is our example and no-one else - this is the example the sahabah followed and never did they raise themselves to the same status as their and our Prophet.

(7) The sahabah were human beings like us, not super humans, not angels and not Prophets and subsequently like us made huge errors – I mentioned already Uhud. How many narrations came from Abu Bakr as Siddiq (may Allah be pleased with him) to us - how much of the sunnah of Rasoolah did he pass to us? And how many written narrations did he destroy in violation of Rasoolahs instruction [Abu Bakr’s justification that he was concerned that the sunnah would mix with Qur’an even though Allah SWT told us that the Qur’an is protected] - In the Last Sermon Rasoolah says “All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again”.

( Is there any example of Allah SWT informing a people to follow the companions/disciples of any other Prophet?

(9) Do you believe Prophet Muhammad frowned and turned away from the blind man who came interrupting [Surah Abasa]? If no – then the following is a reminder. If yes, why do you believe that?

I know Prophet Muhammad did not frown and turn away from the blind man because Allah SWT tells us in the Qur’an and yet our great scholars from Tabari, Ibn Katheer right up to Sayyid Qutb (may Allah SWT be pleased with them and forgive them) have fallen into the error of presenting Prophet Muhammad - who Allah SWT tells us is on a sublime and noble moral character [Surah Qalam 4] and how great is Allah SWT understanding compared to ours - as a bad person who frowns and turns away from a poor blind man. No-one knows where the ‘traditional’ story came from and it has no isnad and is yet incorporated into our explanation of Qur’an. An arrogant kaffar in Surah Muddaththir 22-23 frowns and turns away. No way for Prophet Muhammad to behave like a Kaffar. Also if you read Surah Abasa with the theme of arrogance in mind you will realise that it is clearly the Kaffar who frowns and turns away and Allah SWT reminds us that Prophet Muhammad sws gave the Kaffar attention and is not responsible for his arrgance and rejection of Qur’an, and then goes on to state that these verses are a reminder that KALLA - never did Prophet muhammad sws turn away from the blind man who came seeking guidance. [ayats 5-11] “So whoever wills may remember it”.[ayat 12] That is why Allah SWT then gets really angry with the Kaffars because who are they to reject the Qur’an from the Craetor and Absolute, Eternal God who is Ahad. Wallahi we know nothing in comparison to Allah SWT. I am not a scholar as you can tell but I know a great scholar living amongst us today and he knows great scholars and his knowlegde is a clear answer by Allah SWT of our beloved Prophet sws dua in his Last Sermon “All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me direcly.” And those who fight fi sabillah today against the most powerful military to have ever existed in history are in my humble opinion on a level of iman equivalent to the sahabah.

(10) My brothers in Islam we need to help each other to get our beliefs correct - I ask you is it possible that the munafiqeen and kufar have intentionally placed destructive and evil fabricated narrations in our traditions to try and destroy the Muslim nation from within? And that the deviation of the Shia and Khwaraj resulted in many narrations being fabricated to exaggerate the status of the sahabah (may Allah SWT be pleased with them) as counter propaganda? Hence the narration by Rasoolah [again paraphrased] that the greatest catastrophe to befall my ummah will be my death. No more revelation or sunnah to disprove and expose the enemies of Allah az-Zawjal? The growth in confidence of the munafiqeen? This is why the explanation for Surah al-Falaq claims that our great Prophet who is protected by Allah SWT was put under a spell by a Jew. Nonsense. And only one line in Surah al-Falaq talks about the knot-blowers – the Surah itself is for us, not for prophet Muhammad to seek refuge in Allah SWT alone. Also if the rightly guided Kalifas were on par with Rasoolah then this narration (the greatest catastrophe to befall the Muslims is the departure of Rasoolah) is nonsense on the logic that the greatest catastrophe to befall the ummah would have been the martyrdom of Umar (the gate blocking out fitnah was broken). But we know fitnah started as soon as Prophet Muhammad departed - the Ridda Wars.

My point or concern is that Ahlul Sunnah Wal ‘Jammah has added an innovation to our religion. We will be asked - who is your God? Who is your Prophet? and What is your Religion? It is not as simple as saying Muhammad, firstly we should ask ourselves will Allah who reads the hearts and whose knowledge encompasses everything accept our confession when we think ill of his beloved Rasoolah? Also will Allah SWT be pleased that we elevate his sahabah’s sunnah to the equivalent status of the sunnah of Rasoolah. With a stronger aqeedah inshallah the brothers like yourself who are fighting jihad fi sabillah will be more blessed and with the will of Allah SWT be the ones who will establish the victory promised to us by Allah SWT.

Also I am also concerned that all the great media work you are doing to defend our mujahiddeen brothers who I love and the best amongst us - you are getting sins by making takfir on Muslims who are sinners and ignorant and weak (some are clearly munafiqeen by their own tongues) but we ourselves are not upon certain knowledge and we do not read the hearts. Wallahi be merciful and gentle like Rasoolah with the Muslims and I beseech you to stop making takfir on them as sinning and ignorant and sometimes weak and stupid as they / we are, as I am and I have no doubt - even though you are much better than me - as sinning as you are. Allah SWT says in the Qur’an Surah Ali Imran 159 after the sahabah had committed a huge sin - disobeyed a direct order from Rasoolah in pursuit of dunya and others turned their backs and fled leaving Rasoolah to remain steadfast until he was struck down - “And if you had been rude and harsh in heart, they would have disbanded from about you”. Islam is for mankind and there is no compulsion in religion - and most people will not believe, but have hope and pray for forgiveness. Allah SWT promised us success in the hereafter and never did promise us a complete victory until Esa (AS) returns to establish the sunnah of Prophet Muhammad sws. This is my humble understanding and would seek your response to clarify the position of Ahlul Sunnah Wal ‘Jammah to the points I have raised. Inshallah in the mean time may Allah SWT put love in our hearts for the Muslims of all calibre and may Allah SWT guide us to the straight path and each of us benefit the other.

May Allah SWT forgive my errors and ignorance and may he guide us on a straight path.

Jazak Allah Khair Brothers

Mustafa

I love you guys, may Allah bless you and keep you on the right path, ameen!

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abutalhah ,
no need to debate.

their hearts are sealed.
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Assalaamu Alaikum beloved brothers and sisters!

May Allah reward your splendid efforts

Assalamu alaikum,

Dear brothers u are doing a great job by exposing the so called moderates or deviants but i would advice u to take up a pro-active stance and expose the deviants rather than waiting for them to debate any ways i would also request u to considering exposing maulana wahiduddin khan,a man whose fitna is spreading through out the world in the form of spreading peace and enlightement,he is known enemy of mujahideen,jihad and the concept of Islamic state(he goes on to criticize every known political thinker of Islam from shah waliullah to syed qutb,in his books)u can read some of his books and articles(though not all of them are translated into english) here

http://www.cpsglobal.org/difference_between_enemy_and_aggressor

http://www.cpsglobal.org/lib_the_true_jihad

http://www.cpsglobal.org/lib_islamic_fundamentalism

Allah hafiz

Assalamu Alaikum warahmatuAllahi wabarakatu.

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