“Moderate Muslims” Refuted

Oh please: another peurile, self-justifying, morally defunct attempt to rewrite the oppression of women as a theologically ordained system of respect for women. Knowing as we do that good Muslims like the Taliban routinely beat women for showing so much as an ankle, amputated fingers for daring to have a painted nail, deprived girls of education in the name of Allah - to specify just some of the abuses - it is all the more appalling that a woman seeks to justify backward medieval tribal culture as the epitomy of Allah’s wisdom and mercy. One thing is for sure: this writer does not live in an Islamic society of the Taliban ilk for, if she did, she would not have access to a computer, would not have the freedom to express an opinion, and would not have the literacy to put her thoughts down in words. Shame on you.

By the way, you may wish to heed the advice of mujahida3001 on your Democracy/Voting etc page, where he says: “u might want to enable ‘comment moderation’ under discussion so that you approve/disapprove a comment before its visible to the public”. Like other ‘true’ Muslims of my acquaintance, he likes to silence critical points of view before anyone else can see them. Why? Because like his sad friend Inshallahshaheed, he is incapable of responding to them with the necessary intellectual depth and therefore does not want to be embarrassed in public. In other words, only allow opinions that support your own - and shout down any critics as Kafirs or apostates. Very sad, really -and very telling about the hollowness at the heart of their version of Islam. Of course, I am hoping that you are different and that you have sufficient courage in your convictions to argue for them rationally. I would expect nothing less from a woman (although my experience at the infantile argumentative powers of Muslim men leads to expect nothing better from them.) So go on, surprise me - and show mujahida3001 for the coward he is.

Well there’s a surprise! You haven’t posted my contributions - revealing that you, too, lack the gumption to engage with people who hold different opinions than yours. But then, of course, you don’t hold an opinion, do you? You are among the self-proclaimed holier than holies who arrogantly pretend to know the mind of Allah and to force your understanding of Islam on others at the point of a sword, the barrel of a gun and the impact of a suicide bomb. And yet, and yet…the fact that you run from a public debate points to a fundamental weakness and reveals the simple truth that the only language you really speak is the language of violence and hatred (wrapped up nicely in the pseudo-spiritual pomposity of carefully selected Hadiths and proclamations by Bin Laden and other throat-cutters.) Or am I wrong? If so, engage with me. If not, skulk back into your delusionary world (no doubt comfortably far away from the real fighting and killing in Iraq and elsewhere) and carry on preaching to other fools who share your sad and shrivelled creed.

shireen, you talk too much lol

mp - I think you meant to say “Shireen, you talk too much sense, lol.”

Shireen, you go girl. It does my heart good to hear someone, anyone stand up to blithering idiots. With people like you in the world, we still have hope. I am sad that there are not more voices crying out for the insanity to stop. I was told just tonight that “the Ahl-Al-Kitab enjoy a special status in Islam. In fact, Muslims believe the devout among Christians and Jews will enter paradise along with them”. After seeing what is going on all over the world, I have a hard time believeing that when one looks at the koran 9:29-30.
The “special” status I’ve seen, is the special love shown to a Christian man in Pakistan, who after he refused to convert, was raped by 30 Muslim men. Or the special be-headings of nuns and priests. I see special murder being done all over the world in the name of Islam, murder of other Muslims by Muslims. I will never understand it. I am assuming that you are a Muslim, if you are I really want to thank you for speaking out, if only there were more. Even if you are not Muslim, thank you for speaking out.

Alhamdulillah finally something worthwhile on the web, some people who think for themselves instead of allowing others to define and think for them. I am American born and raised and proudly wear Niqab. It is beautiful, I love it and whether you hate it or love it it just makes me love it even more!

You have created your own cult based on your own interpretations. Your reference of Surah Al-Ahzab is right, but your interpretation is wrong. The 32 number ayat dictates: “O Consorts of the Prophet! Ye are not like any of the (other) women: if ye do fear (Allah), be not too complacent of speech, lest one in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire: but speak ye a speech (that is) just.” Followed by ayat 33 which dictates: “And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular prayer, and give Zakat; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless.” It is not Islam that you believe in. May Allah have mercy on your souls.

So what is the final verdict?

“The Noble Qur’an - Al-Ahzab 33:59 O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils)* all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

You know - or should know - that this is a deliberate and major mistranslation of the Quran. The Arabic says ““walyadribna bikhumurihinna AAala juyoobihinna”, (cover their bosoms) and the rest is invented by alleged scholars as an “interpretation of meaning”. Neither the head nor the hair nor eyes are even mentioned.

Is misquoting the Quran not a rather major sin?